Abortion & Euthenasia

 Time to take on a couple of topics that I never have really given much in-depth thought to in the past. Those topics are, in the order of discussion in this piece, Abortion and euthanasia.

The main reason for this entry, was a facebook meme that I came across which showed a happy father holding a severely disfigured child, with the caption “Thank you for not aborting me”.

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The image is indeed, not for those with delicate sensibilities, and the reactions were a mixture of amusement and disgust. The final comment of the thread (when I found it), was from a person who called all of the participants in the thread “pigs”, for being so judgmental of the child in the image. Me being the person that I am, decided that if this person thinks they get the last word, then they are wrong.

What can I say? Its how I roll. When you speak, then you better be ready to be answered to.

Though the comment may on one hand be founded, on the other, one should not just assume everyone in the previous conversation is judgemental. But calling the kettle out for how black it is, was peanuts, compared to the worst aspect of the thread.

I ended up telling her off, and did not mince words in doing so. The motivation for my anger here was not that she was calling out everyone else from a high horse. My main problem, was with the point that was missed, as per the meme itself.

Some of the commenters in the thread were amused by the image. Whatever (I would be a liar if I said that I didn’t get a chuckle out of it initially, before the message sank in). But the worst of the bunch, are those that were repulsed by the image. But the worst yet, were those that reacted, based only on the image itself, and not the message it sends. The message I think, being that it is not always noble and good, to save a life.

One of the biggest boons to having religion as one of the biggest motivators of attitudes (and by extension, laws) when it comes to subjects like abortion (other than women’s rights), is that it is not based on reality, or actual situations that many people will be facing. Most of the education such people have on the subject, is at best, 2nd hand information. In the same way that it is hard to form an educated opinion of living in Toronto when you reside in Berlin, abortion is one of those subjects that has to be in your life directly in some way, shape or form, in order to have an opinion that is TRULY educated.

But unfortunately, though the so-called “moral majority” feels educated, they are not. Even if they feel that they have done a good deed, the only deed they have done is stroke their own ego. So, you signed a bill that appeases many of your constituents, as well as your invisible sky daddy friend. Congratulations on being a good Christian. Pat yourself on the back, and wait for the perks of the all mighty’s country club!

Meanwhile, for the rest of us here on planet earth who are bound by your quick signature, we are stuck with the task of figuring out real life, around deluded assumption.

Those who are raped, and as a result have a baby, must accept the consequences of their actions. Those that are in a bad life situation and as such will not be able to give a child much of a chance, must bring the child into the situation anyway. It does not matter if there is a good chance that the child will grow up, and end up on the “bad” side of the law (as interpreted by the same conservative christians).

And last, but certainly not least, are the disfigured and suffering children, like the one in the meme. They must be born, no matter how much suffering they will endure.

By the resonating silence when it comes to the pro-life side acknowledging any of the above problems based in reality, I think it is safe to make a few assumptions.

One of course, is that many in the “moral majority” are acting out of self interest. That is quite obvious, and frankly, the least of them. If I use this writing as a reference I can think of 3:

  1. These people do not see anything wrong with punishing a raped girl, by forcing her to birth and mother the rapists baby

  2. They see nothing wrong with throwing a child into a hopeless situation, even if it may end up on one of their “bad” lists later in life

  3. They see nothing wrong with forcing the birth of a child, even if it is known from the start, that their life will be plagued by pain and misery. I am not talking about bullying and taunting either, I am talking about medical conditions and other painful abnormalities.

I have painted all pro-life people with a mighty broad brush in this post, I will admit. But really, if you are REALLY as educated on the subject of abortion as you think you are, then you should have considered all (or most) of what I have outlined above.

When it comes to my views on the subject, as the bias of this piece blatantly indicates, I am pro-choice. However I did not stop at that conclusion. I am for abortion, when it comes to emergency situations. And I am in favor or it being an option, should a couple (or a single mother) find themselves with an unexpected surprise. But I do think there should be a limitation when it comes to what I will call “recreational” abortions (“Oh shit! We fucked, and now im pregnant!” abortions).

I understand that in the heat of the moment, sometimes precaution is thrown to the wind. One of the most fun things that a young (well, any) couple can do, is have sex. And sometimes it will happen whether a condom is available or not.

In fact, my joke is that if I ever find myself with a home run and no rubber, I still won’t pull out (she may get pregnant anyway, so may as well get what pleasure you can out of it).

Now, despite saying this, if someone finds them selves at accidental pregnancy #3,4,5, you have to wonder. With all the various forms of birth control available today, why still the same mistake? One can make a mistake once, twice, even 3 times. But anything over that, come on. I am not telling you not to have sex, or anything like that. More so, use your head next time you go about it.

One thing to note however, emergency abortion should not ever be counted in such a tally (though I would hope no one would ever need more than one anyway).

Now onto the subject of euthanasia. While suicide is the act of taking ones own life, euthanasia is when a 3rd party assists a person in taking their own life, as per their wishes.

Like abortion, this topic more often than not, gets voted on and collectively decided, by a majority of people with a very narrow understanding of the subject itself. And I can see how it could also be lumped into the same category as suicide.

Though this is wrong, considering that most suicides are the result of mental or emotional suffering, and of course, the people take their own lives without outside involvement.

Euthanasia on the other hand, besides being assisted by a 3rd party, is usually an option considered by people who are going though agonizing physical suffering. There is a good chance that these people would take their own lives if they could, but since they are unable, they are forced to try to find a 3rd party who is willing to grant them their wish.

Like abortion, euthanasia is bogged down by black and white thought processes, even though the real life situations are often gray. In fact, one could say that many of the real life situations are seemingly “black and white”, but to do the obvious thing, would be to break the law. The law does not see it as granting a suffering person’s wish, it sees it as murder.

But as with unthought abortion legislation and opinions, this misses the personal touch that reality beings. The world that the rest of us live in.

Lets take the view of a nurse, whose job requires her to care for many terminally ill patients. On a daily basis, this nurse encounters many people who suffer endlessly, many of whom beg her to just pull the plug already.

Given this scenario, what in your opinion, is the bigger crime?

Pulling the plug, and ending the person’s misery?

Or letting them live to suffer another day?

There is no doubt, that euthanasia would need to be heavily monitored. The decision has to be made by the person themselves, and not driven by the anterior motives of another.

After reading this post, all I ask of you, is to rethink your positions. I do not care what your favorite scripture, or mainstream society, say on the subjects. Reality does not always fit around our molded beliefs and conclusions. So instead of causing more harm by sticking to what we THINK is best, lets use reality as our reference and guide.

To not do so does not show compassion, it shows ignorance and utter selfishness.

14 thoughts on “Abortion & Euthenasia

  1. 1. “These people do not see anything wrong with punishing a raped girl, by forcing her to birth and mother the rapists baby”

    Punishment would be telling the rape victim that the aggressive act of killing an innocent baby will make the pain from the rape go away. Abortion will only lead to more pain for the women. Not only will she have to deal with the rape but the fact that she became the aggressor in order to end an innocent life. The baby is not the one who needs to be eliminated. The rapist should be the one who gets the death penalty, not the baby. Abortion hurts women because they become the aggressor. So much healing can come from giving life. violence on violence is never the answer.

    2. “They see nothing wrong with throwing a child into a hopeless situation, even if it may end up on one of their “bad” lists later in life”

    So those that are born into bad situations are not worthy of life and can not become good or great people in your mind? Our situations should never be the litheness test to our existence.

    3. “They see nothing wrong with forcing the birth of a child, even if it is known from the start, that their life will be plagued by pain and misery. I am not talking about bullying and taunting either, I am talking about medical conditions and other painful abnormalities.”

    How can anyone ever know if a life will be plagued with pain or misery? There would be very few of us alive in this world if we were eliminated because we may suffer. True compassion is loving and caring for those in pain not killing them because of the potential of it. Most people with medical conditions and abnormalities want to live and love life. They don’t want to be put out of their misery by being killed like an animal. Your way of thinking though is not new. Lest we forget the millions who were killed in Nazi concentration camps because of the idea of a pure and perfect society.

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    1. Clearly your inability to see past your personal bias, has blatently overlooked the fact that this whole piece is outlining the fact that the OPTION should be there.
      No one is forcing anyone to abort a pregnancy in any situation. But painting a women or girl who wants to have an abortion as an “aggressor”, is pretty damn bold and bossy.

      Its not your body, and its not your choice. Get off your moral high horse, and GET OVER IT.

      /// Your way of thinking though is not new. Lest we forget the millions who were killed in Nazi concentration camps because of the idea of a pure and perfect society. ///

      God your a moron.

      If someone is happy with living out their life, and can find ways to deal with there pain, then all the power to them. But if they do not want to deal with it anymore, and the decision can be is consiously theres, then the option should be available.

      Your not showing “true compassion” by judging all attitudes based on those that are living well with their situation. Your just reenforcing your own personal bias.

      Which is hardly as much “passionate” as it is selfish.

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    2. My mother was forced to carry my baby sister to term. She had anencephaly, which means she was born with no upper skull, her brain exposed. Normally your brain floats in fluid within a protective sac, and when there’s too little fluid-or in Nathalie’s case, none-your brain sits on the bottom of your skull cavity and the pressure points directly on your brain are IMMENSELY painful (I would know as I’ve has several CSF leaks after spinal taps). Because of the amount of pain she was in, she spent her entire life on large doses of pain medication put into an IV in her little neck because the standard neonate IV goes into the scalp, and she didn’t have one of those.

      Now, my sister lived for nearly a week before her exposed brain tissue dried up and died and she could no longer breathe on her own. It would have been cruel to keep her breathing artificially as some families do-alive and in pain despite the medication dulling her little senses-so we let her go.

      Her life was MOST CERTAINLY filled with pain and suffering, as we knew it would be from my mum’s second ultrasound. But we were not allowed to make a decision that would protect her from a life that was nothing but pain. Either abortion OR euthanasia would have been kindnesses that we were not allowed to show her. She was forced to live for six hellish days, in constant pain, struggling to breathe, before she was able to pass on to what we believe is a better place instead of passing straight from the warmth and love of my mother’s womb into the warmth and love of her maker’s embrace. That is despicable. No one-especially not that precious little girl-should have to deal with that.

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      1. I had initially liked the comment, but thought better of it (being the content).

        None the less, I agree. And thank you for taking the time to write.

        Hopefully anyone reading this and having an instant, thoughtless reaction, will take the time and read your words.

        Stop and think.

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  2. I was raped at 13 and was too sacred to tell my mom or anyone. By the time I spoke up, I was 5 months pregnant. I had a baby boy at 14 and it took 2 years of trial and plea bargains to convict my rapist.
    I NEVER REGRET HAVING MY SON. He is awesome and smart and beautiful and ME! He’s 24 now. It changed my life, yes.
    I hate how people try to throw rape in for pro choice movements. The “imaginary man in the sky” who has abundantly blessed me gave us free will, and I do believe I would have saved the child in the picture from its misery, but to fill heard of rape victims that find themselves pregnant that abortion is their best option is fucking sham filled propaganda bullshit.

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      1. As opposed to your biased, uneducated, immoral opinion.
        Just keep crying yourself a sad story to justify your murder.
        Once that sperm hits that egg and fertilizes it, it’s not just “your body” anymore, so you are the one that needs to “accept” that and get the fuck over it.
        I’m pro choice, I don’t think abortions should be illegal, that’s government over reach.
        But you disgusting PIGS that get them out of your own self-convenience are sick, immoral monsters.
        When there is a direct threat to the life of the mother, that’s one thing. But “being in a bad situation” is not fucking excuse for murder.
        How about, use a fucking condom, or abstain, if you can’t support a child.
        You don’t get to cry a sob story and pretend MURDERING a unborn child is EVER the right thing to do. You don’t get to make that choice, I don’t give a fuck if it’s growing in your stomach.

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      2. Your body is your temple, period.

        Also, its immoral to control another to suit ones own whims. Its certainly not godly.
        Live and let live? Nope.

        “You made a choice? I JUDGE THEE”

        I appreciate your input :).

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  3. I find your article distasteful, I suffer rare genetic bone disease from birth so does my brother, I am in chronic pain all day everyday and live on painkillers. My brother is the same, I was brought up to never feel like I was different.. I went out got qualified in mechanical engineering, got married and had a family despite my disease. When I was 16 my mum and dad feel pregnant by accident and went to geneticist whom said 100% the child would also have our disease and that mum should abort it mum and dad despite seeing us in daily pain and more major surgery than we can count decided to have the baby because her other boys were living a happy life despite illness. 22 years later that child is the ONLY child out of 4 without a single disability and carries no genes for our condition. Point is I have a problem with people that crap on about parents being selfish and keeping sick kids. I for one don’t care if my illness is present I’d rather be alive enjoying a family and being a part of society. And who the hell are you or any other person in this world to argue that I should have been aborted it makes me sick thinking about how you/pro abortionists try guilt people into trying to decide to abort based on medical concerns unless you yourself have a chronic illness than you wouldn’t know what the right course of action is. Let the child decide what they want as they reach adulthood I’m all for peaceful euthanasia if the person wants it but you do not know how much a disabled person may still contribute (Stephen Hawking’s for example) to society and how much they may want life regardless of the illness they have..

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    1. // I find your article distasteful //

      Its a matter of opinion.

      // Point is I have a problem with people that crap on about parents being selfish and keeping sick kids. I for one don’t care if my illness is present I’d rather be alive enjoying a family and being a part of society. //

      I read your comment, about your history and your parents decision. Its unfortunate that you and your brother were dealt the cards you were dealt. But its also great that you both made the best of it.

      However, the 3ed child was still irresponsible, in my opinion. It does not matter if a fluke ended up working out in a more than desirable situation.

      But I said I was pro-choice, and I mean just that. Its was your parents choice to make, and they made it. I can speak all I want here. But I still aknowledge who is in charge of the decision.

      As for letting someone decide for themselves . . . that is opening up a whole new can of worms.

      If a 10 or a12 year old that is living with severe chronic pain or distress and they want to die, should they be able to? At what age does this decision become theirs to make?

      A more important question would be (if applicable to your location) at what age assisted suicide laws become in your favor.

      While I commend how you (and your family) didn’t let chronic disease hold you down, I can’t help but notice a whole lot of expectation to follow your lead.

      Basically, as long as they have a choice.

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      1. So you are admitting that you would have murdered her perfectly healthy sibling out of your own self absorbed sense of intelligence.
        You are sick.
        People like you should have their tubes tied, so they don’t have the right to choose anymore. You shouldn’t have the ability to conceive a child as a child murderer, just like a pedophile can’t live near schools.

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      2. Fine by me. I don’t plan on having children anyway. The earth is already overpopulated and polluted by everyone elses trash.

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    2. Nailed it. These blind monsters can bullshit themselves all they want, they are still evil, murdering scum.
      It’s personal greed of not wanting to have to looo after a disabled child, not out of compassion for the child. It’s self absorbed evil.
      Thank you for sharing your story.

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      1. // Nailed it. These blind monsters can bullshit themselves all they want, they are still evil, murdering scum.
        It’s personal greed of not wanting to have to looo after a disabled child, not out of compassion for the child. It’s self absorbed evil //

        If the child is in a constant state of suffering (and always WILL BE in a constant state of suffering!), no. I don’t think abortion or euthanasia are unwarranted. What I DO think is evil however, is not taking this inter consideration.

        We put down animals in pain. I hold no different standards for humans. In fact, its silly to hold both to different standards when at their core, they are one and the same. Humans are animals. A human life is no more valuable than a dog, a cat, or a cow I eat at Mcdonalds.

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